A nice coincidence with Heide's Tower of Flame. Gomp - Co mod creator and founder Spoongus - Models and design works. That mean he successfully extended the age of fire for quite a while. I believe she is probably a descendent of Gwynevere (either directly or of the same 'soul' in this cycle) but I don't think she personally is the same person and still around. We know his oldest daughter married a "Flame God", but we know more or less nothing about him. Souls: 0.00 . It's a place of discussion after all though. Was Flame God Flann the sole reason or hope for the continued existence of Age of Fire? At this point Gywn is beyond desparate. This slightly warm ring boosts the synergy of miracles. Was Flann part of that plan and did Gwyn royally burn his brownie? So at this point I think we can say with pretty good certainty that Gwyn was willing to give his youngest to the Pygmies as a sacrifice of some sort. If you consider what would occur when a God of Flame meets a Goddess of Fertility... One of the central questions of Dark Souls has always been why would the Nameless King, who seems to be the head of the most honorable covenent in the game, turn on his father and join with the enemy he spent most of his life trying to destroy. But they are seperate. Reply. I don't see the Fillianore/New Londo connection, it's because she was given to the pygmies? "You'll be coming with me, Dark Lord." Series. I believe that in Lordran, there are lords, and gods. Then Flann passed away, leaving his title to someone else, probably Oceiros. If Ocerious inherited from a Flame God, you would think there would be more...flame. Eira is at a loss for words at her captains invite to accompany him. Johnthethird. Flame God Flann gets mentioned very little in Dark Souls - in fact, only once that I can recall, that being the description on the Ring of the Sun Princess. Flame God Flann/Gwynevere (Dark Souls) Gwynevere (Dark Souls) Flame God Flann; Lord's Blade Ciaran; The Nameless King; Lord Gwyn; Dark Sun Gwyndolin; Summary. Nah, never was a "central" question for first (some side story yes, not central) and it's not really a question: NK hunted dragons and thought it was a good thing to do, then he found out about Midir, realized hypocrisy of the situation and ran away to atone his past deeds against the dragons. The architecture is similar to that of Anor Londo (if very destroyed, which makes sense since this takes place much later). MentalCrash Jul 24, 2019. When we are talking fire in the Dark Souls world, we have two major branches. Flann wished to be wed to Gwynevere but Gwyn would not allow it, which plunged the two empires into war when Gwynevere fled her fathers kingdom to side with Flann. Gwyn led the Gods in a war against the Dragons. Flame God Flann. Obsessed. After the manifestation of the First Flame, a race of towering humanoids was born. That'd be incest, sis. I think Gwyndolin and his ring combined with Seath wanting to experiment on women he kidnaps is a rabbit hole worth going down, given the Moonlight Greatsword makes Seath the grandfather of magic and Gwyndolin being a caster who uses magic buffed by faith. Moonlight Greatsword says that "Seath is the grandfather of sorcery" indicating to me both that Seath is the origin of most magic and that moonlight is related in some what. "The Princess of Sunlight Gwynevere left Anor Londo along many other deities, and later became wife to Flame God Flann." The theory that Seath had his way with Gwynevere (crossbreed Priscilla), Seath perhaps tried to experiment on Gwynevere, Perhaps he had some connection to Havel the Rock and was disgusted by the treatment of Havel and Gwyn's support for Seath (maybe Havel is a bishop for Flann? Gwynevere married the Flame God Flann after she left with the rest of the gods. I discuss that here: http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/From+Berserk+to+Bloodborne. Flann had his arms crossed, a frown marring his face, he knew that aura even if he couldn't tell from sight alone. One of the new boss fights that await you in the Ds3 Archthrones mod: coming... when its done. And seeing all of this, the Nameless King and his knights, including Havel the Rock, could not stand by and support his Father's decisions, or even support continuing to extend the age of fire. Series. Is he a God of THE flame? She may or may not have died. A mod I've been working for 3 months so far with 3 good peeps. It would make sense since Lothric is a completely pro-firelinking society (at least before the youger prince's change of mind), and Flann was the god of flame. A land of gray crags, Archtrees and Everlasting Dragons. But lets take a moment to consider how or why this would happen, and why an illusion would be kept to hide it. All i have to say is... poor Gwyndolin... they didn't deserve what happened. We know gave a part of his soul to the Four Kings and part of his Soul to Seath...but what if that was only part of the gift. Fillianore, his youngest, we find in the Ringed City, which I think a strong argument can be made was connected to New Londo, and area which had to be flooded and destroyed to stop the spread of the Abyss. With their p… Commander. Coolio! I don't personally buy into the Gwynevere being the Queen. Flame God Flann? Flann is probably the slug under Gwynevere in the deacon cathedral. There's speculation and stuff like "Oceiros is Flame God Flann and he killed Gwynevere," "Velka got what she wanted," etc. Because I think he was just there to say "gwynevere is not in anor londo. So maybe flann is hardly mentioned because he's not really important, just one of many husbands gwynevere took on over the centuries. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. I think from just wanted a placeholder with a cool name. I just think he must've had a plan. We know that the flames began to fade, but we are never told why (correct me if I'm wrong). 1 . Imagine this narrative. The Nameless King (dead)- god of lightning Gwynevere (unknown)-goddess of sunlight Filianore (dead)-unknown Gwyndolin (dead)-god of moonlight Flame God Flann (unknown)-god of fire Nameless Blacksmith Deity (dead)-god of smithing Caitha (unknown)-goddess of tears Galib (unknown)-god of disease Kremmel (unknown)-god of struggle Things begin to get heated. but there's no definitive answer for this. "You are aware I could kill you before you could blink, yes? I know we haven't got any more evidences he wasn't. I am not saying it was ceaseless (I'm also not saying it wasn't...) but I have considered that. Who is he? For Dark Souls Remastered on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Where's the real Gwynevere?" Anyway, just got a little excited about the possibilities of Dark Souls 2 and its potential of being a prequel etc. Johnthethird. Flann, later known as the Spear God was the biological younger brother of the Current Martial King of the One-Horned Tribe hailed as its strongest and one of the Five Martial Gods of Cheonghwado and its co-founder together with his best friend, The Sword God. Also, there is room for a lot of confusion because we don't know what flame he is a God of. Lore [ edit | edit source ] He is mentioned to have left Anor Londo along with the other gods , and eventually marrying Gwynevere, Princess of … The most reasonable to me seems to be pyromancy, perhaps through the Witch of Izalith, and I think most reasonably as part of the attempt to re-create the First Flame that lead to Chaos and Demons. Reply. He is still alive...sadly. This took about 3 months to put together. Fextralife forums | RPGs, Elden Ring, Nioh, Sekiro, Dark Souls, Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne, and more It seems reasonable to believe Flann would need to be connected to one of these two, so lets explore both. The Princess of Sunlight left Anor Londo along with many other deities, and later became wife to Flame God Flann. But what I never thought about was the difference between the founders and the people occupying it, unless I am totally misinterpreting your second idea. Flame God Flann is a mentioned character in Dark Souls. The group of five enjoy a well deserved party, and with the alcohol permeating their brains, the Dragonslayer leads dear Eira to his room. It would make sense since Lothric is a completely pro-firelinking society (at least before the youger prince's change of mind), and Flann was the god of flame. The Princess of Sunlight Gwynevere left Anor Londo along many other deities, and later became wife to Flame God Flann. So I'm guessing that Gwynevere is actually normal sized. Was Flann keeping those flames alive and did Seath and/or Gwyn do something to really shake his salad? Nito, the first of the dead, the Witch of Izalith, and her Daughters of Chaos, Gwyn, the Lord of Sunlight, and his faithful knig… The obvious being the First Flame itself, and the second being through pyromancy, in all of it's various incarnations. Flanny-boy?" Commander #1. Amazing chest ahead XD . This leads me to believe he is simply a … Either before or after this, Seath goes mad and Gwyndolin leaves him to return to Anor Londo and using the magical skills he has learned from Seath either creates or expands the illusion of the city. Plus you - #146593944 added by tiltaz at [Dark Souls] Are you alright, m' lady H-exe Jul 24, 2019. Gwyndolin has aspects of the moon and is transgender with a ring that makes him appear fully female. Flame God Flann gets mentioned very little in Dark Souls - in fact, only once that I can recall, that being the description on the Ring of the Sun Princess. Since she could have been related to Lothric in the recent times, to have her heavenly children spread her influences. Since Lothric is the last cycle and it includes all the previous ages, I'm more inclined to believe that Gwynevere left Anor Londo together with Flann in Ds1, and they eventually ended up in Lothric in Ds3, where Flann founded Lothric's Kingdom and Castle. Flame God Flann; K Knight Berenike; Knight King Rendal; L Lord Gwyn's Firstborn; M Furtive Pygmy; Nameless Blacksmith Deity; O Old Man McLoyf; P Pharis; Primordial Serpents; S Salaman the Master Pyromancer; V Velka, Goddess of Sin; W Witch of Izalith; Y Yulva; Posts: 309. Seath was kidnapping women, including Gwyneveres own handmaids. The place to discuss Dark Souls II. Vored trans princess :(. Something hit me recently, and the only reason it did is because I rewatched some of ENBs lore videos. The real Gwynevere is currently not in Lordran, having married to the flame god Flann. ). Joined: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:00 am. You can't screw Illusions. FINISHED. (silly theory, just spewing it out in case it sticks). We know souls are transferable from Dark Souls 2, so I think more likely original Gwynevere (and Flann, etc) are gone and in this cycle maybe it's the Queen of Lothric, maybe it's Rosaria, hell maybe it's Gertrude. Ring of the Sun Princess is a Ring in Dark Souls and Dark Souls Remastered. Dark Souls 1 is the story of Gwyn, this is the story of those who followed. Rather than recreating the First Flame, they instead create the Chaos Flame. Then Flann passed away, leaving his title to someone else, probably Oceiros. (I think) Reply. Flame god Flann Could be that Gwynevere was the Queen of Lothric as she is not seen anywhere and the Divine blessing kind of vaguelly links her to it. What about this? Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:38 pm. Is Flann actually Ceaseless Discharge ? This ring is granted to those who enter a Covenant with Gwynevere, daughter of Lord Gwyn and the Princess of Sunlight. A community dedicated to everything about Dark Souls 3. - Page 2. If he was why did Gwyn have to sacrifice himself and why did Flann leave with the other Gods? BPassion91 Jul 24, 2019. Gwyn, seeking a way to stop this makes a deal with the Witch of Izalith for an arraigned marriage they believe will be able to rekindle the first flame and extend the age of fire. Still, I doubt that Gwynnevere died at the birth of Bed of Chaos. "In the Age of Ancients, the world was unformed, shrouded by fog. The reason Gwyndolin is so weird is because he was born with an affinity of the moon, was raised as a daughter and has a … Anyway, I believe that Flann has played a role in the lore leading up to DkS3. The way I interpret it, all Gods are "Flame Gods". The Witch of Izalith and two of her daughers have become the Bed of Chaos...suddenly there are the more immediate danger of the demons. Obsessed. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Ornstein, who protects Gwynevere, is present. I do personally believe that "Heide" is a new name that was devised for the now ancient Flame God Flann and it was him and Gwynevere who founded the now sunken city. A look at Gwynevere, Princess of Sunlight, and the woman behind the illusion few ever knew. That simple. Turning against his family...I think it will take more than finding a nice dragon...which there is no indication that he did as I am not aware of any connections of NK to the Ringed City. Menma's grin met the 'Flame God's' scowl. And so a schism in the ranks occured, a Civil War during which the Nameless King joined with the Dragons. But then there was fire, and with fire came disparity. Gwyn's daughter, Gwynevere, provides the player character with the Lordvessel needed to link the First Flame.According to in-game item descriptions, she married the Flame God, Flann… We don't even ACTUALLY know what Gwynevere looked like, only that she apparently left Anor Londo to marry "Flame god Flann" at some point, and Gwyndolin created an illusion of both her and a bright sun in the world. That, or Flann is the God of boring, conventional flames and not awesome life-giving Flames. Also keep in mind that gwynevere likely had a LOT of husbands and children over the years. One final thought: Did Gwyn really start the Age of Fire and create his dynasty if he knew that the flames would just as soon fade ? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/From+Berserk+to+Bloodborne. The Kings of New Londo fall to the Abyss and the city is flooded to stop them and Gwyn, now truely alone with enemies encroaching on all sides, links the flame to attempt to extend the current Age of Fire. Gwynevere left Anor Londo first and THEN met flame god flann and married him. From the way you put it, it sounds like gwyn sacrifices himself after all this crazy shit went down, but gwyn became a lord of cinder as opposed to ash. Gwyn, Lord of Sunlight, the Witch of Izalith, The Furtive Pygmy, and Nito, the First of the Dead: these four beings thus became the first and most powerful out of the other beings that lived in the world, known from that time as the Lords. A look at Gwynevere, Princess of Sunlight, and the woman behind the illusion few ever knew. Gywn's Daughter Gwynevere fell in love with another being that was also very powerful, the Flame God Flann. First, let's go back to the story we already know from DkS1: And the sisters did survive after all, so it doesn't need to be that she "died" but that the union went...poorly. Flame God Flann/Gwynevere (Dark Souls) Gwynevere (Dark Souls) Flame God Flann; Lord's Blade Ciaran; The Nameless King; Lord Gwyn; Dark Sun Gwyndolin; Summary. Priscilla I think was an experiment who escaped and was protected in the painting. We just assume that everything dies at some point. That's adding an awful lot I don't think you need to add. Gywndolin, with his serpentine legs and moon sorcery, perhaps was gifted to Seath for used in his experiments due to his feminine aspects. Therefore I think gwyn sacrificed himself after the bed of chaos was born but before Anor londo was abandoned by the gods. She is married to someone. Gwynevere left Anor Londo with the other deities AFTER Gwyn gave himself to the first flame tho. ThatGuyImortal Jul 24, 2019. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. so it could have been possible that (referring to VaatiVidya's theory on heide's tower of flame) that flann had already created heide's tower and then gwynevere came along after and added the style of anor londo in the form of the cathedral of blue. I think Flann is mostly, just a wink at Berserk's Grunbeld. "The Princess of Sunlight Gwynevere left Anor Londo along many other deities, and later became wife to Flame God Flann.". Do you really wanna start this? View all replies. Heat and cold, life and death, and of course, light and dark. The wedding of Gwynevere and Flann is swiftly approaching. She is still around and having kids in dark souls 3 and has manipulated entire kingdoms to be built around the idea of linking the flame. Especially considering the existence of Priscilla. They came from the Dark, much like Humans, and four powerful individuals were changed, for they found the Souls of Lords near the flame. :V But I think Gwyndolin would have more appeal. But it seems pretty unnatural. More the Abyss and Kaath, since we see all of the Primordial Serpent statues. Also I'm not sure where you got the idea that gwyndolin had anything to do with seath. 309. Players can equip up to 2 Rings, but equipping two of the same item is not possible. His plan has failed, his daughter is lost, which it appears he wishes to hide with the Illusion of her we find in Anor Londo. I dont think flann is important. I think she is married to ocerios anyway. I remember discarding him as rather irrelevant, but when I thought a bit further regarding the speculative relationship between Seath, Priscilla, Gwynevere and of course Seath being a trusted friend of Lord Gwyn, something hit me. That one is fake" we only hear his name once and thats it. The Nameless king briefly returned after his father's death to place "Sunlight Blade". FINISHED. :> Reply. The fire begins to fade. Add to that that Gwyndolin appears to now have snakes/tenticle legs and considering the Picassa, as well as basic proximity, I think there is a stong argument to be made for a connection there. So maybe she was the reason of Bed of Chaos, but she survived and escaped. But that's my read and I can understand disagreement. By the way, my Dark Souls pet peeve would be 'Gwyndolin was born with snake legs'. Then from the dark, they came, and found the Souls of Lords within the flame. This is the story flame god flann Gwyn, this is the story of Gwyn, this is God. 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A nice coincidence with Heide's Tower of Flame. Gomp - Co mod creator and founder Spoongus - Models and design works. That mean he successfully extended the age of fire for quite a while. I believe she is probably a descendent of Gwynevere (either directly or of the same 'soul' in this cycle) but I don't think she personally is the same person and still around. We know his oldest daughter married a "Flame God", but we know more or less nothing about him. Souls: 0.00 . It's a place of discussion after all though. Was Flame God Flann the sole reason or hope for the continued existence of Age of Fire? At this point Gywn is beyond desparate. This slightly warm ring boosts the synergy of miracles. Was Flann part of that plan and did Gwyn royally burn his brownie? So at this point I think we can say with pretty good certainty that Gwyn was willing to give his youngest to the Pygmies as a sacrifice of some sort. If you consider what would occur when a God of Flame meets a Goddess of Fertility... One of the central questions of Dark Souls has always been why would the Nameless King, who seems to be the head of the most honorable covenent in the game, turn on his father and join with the enemy he spent most of his life trying to destroy. But they are seperate. Reply. I don't see the Fillianore/New Londo connection, it's because she was given to the pygmies? "You'll be coming with me, Dark Lord." Series. I believe that in Lordran, there are lords, and gods. Then Flann passed away, leaving his title to someone else, probably Oceiros. If Ocerious inherited from a Flame God, you would think there would be more...flame. Eira is at a loss for words at her captains invite to accompany him. Johnthethird. Flame God Flann gets mentioned very little in Dark Souls - in fact, only once that I can recall, that being the description on the Ring of the Sun Princess. Flame God Flann/Gwynevere (Dark Souls) Gwynevere (Dark Souls) Flame God Flann; Lord's Blade Ciaran; The Nameless King; Lord Gwyn; Dark Sun Gwyndolin; Summary. Nah, never was a "central" question for first (some side story yes, not central) and it's not really a question: NK hunted dragons and thought it was a good thing to do, then he found out about Midir, realized hypocrisy of the situation and ran away to atone his past deeds against the dragons. The architecture is similar to that of Anor Londo (if very destroyed, which makes sense since this takes place much later). MentalCrash Jul 24, 2019. When we are talking fire in the Dark Souls world, we have two major branches. Flann wished to be wed to Gwynevere but Gwyn would not allow it, which plunged the two empires into war when Gwynevere fled her fathers kingdom to side with Flann. Gwyn led the Gods in a war against the Dragons. Flame God Flann. Obsessed. After the manifestation of the First Flame, a race of towering humanoids was born. That'd be incest, sis. I think Gwyndolin and his ring combined with Seath wanting to experiment on women he kidnaps is a rabbit hole worth going down, given the Moonlight Greatsword makes Seath the grandfather of magic and Gwyndolin being a caster who uses magic buffed by faith. Moonlight Greatsword says that "Seath is the grandfather of sorcery" indicating to me both that Seath is the origin of most magic and that moonlight is related in some what. "The Princess of Sunlight Gwynevere left Anor Londo along many other deities, and later became wife to Flame God Flann." The theory that Seath had his way with Gwynevere (crossbreed Priscilla), Seath perhaps tried to experiment on Gwynevere, Perhaps he had some connection to Havel the Rock and was disgusted by the treatment of Havel and Gwyn's support for Seath (maybe Havel is a bishop for Flann? Gwynevere married the Flame God Flann after she left with the rest of the gods. I discuss that here: http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/From+Berserk+to+Bloodborne. Flann had his arms crossed, a frown marring his face, he knew that aura even if he couldn't tell from sight alone. One of the new boss fights that await you in the Ds3 Archthrones mod: coming... when its done. And seeing all of this, the Nameless King and his knights, including Havel the Rock, could not stand by and support his Father's decisions, or even support continuing to extend the age of fire. Series. Is he a God of THE flame? She may or may not have died. A mod I've been working for 3 months so far with 3 good peeps. It would make sense since Lothric is a completely pro-firelinking society (at least before the youger prince's change of mind), and Flann was the god of flame. A land of gray crags, Archtrees and Everlasting Dragons. But lets take a moment to consider how or why this would happen, and why an illusion would be kept to hide it. All i have to say is... poor Gwyndolin... they didn't deserve what happened. We know gave a part of his soul to the Four Kings and part of his Soul to Seath...but what if that was only part of the gift. Fillianore, his youngest, we find in the Ringed City, which I think a strong argument can be made was connected to New Londo, and area which had to be flooded and destroyed to stop the spread of the Abyss. With their p… Commander. Coolio! I don't personally buy into the Gwynevere being the Queen. Flame God Flann? Flann is probably the slug under Gwynevere in the deacon cathedral. There's speculation and stuff like "Oceiros is Flame God Flann and he killed Gwynevere," "Velka got what she wanted," etc. Because I think he was just there to say "gwynevere is not in anor londo. So maybe flann is hardly mentioned because he's not really important, just one of many husbands gwynevere took on over the centuries. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. I think from just wanted a placeholder with a cool name. I just think he must've had a plan. We know that the flames began to fade, but we are never told why (correct me if I'm wrong). 1 . Imagine this narrative. The Nameless King (dead)- god of lightning Gwynevere (unknown)-goddess of sunlight Filianore (dead)-unknown Gwyndolin (dead)-god of moonlight Flame God Flann (unknown)-god of fire Nameless Blacksmith Deity (dead)-god of smithing Caitha (unknown)-goddess of tears Galib (unknown)-god of disease Kremmel (unknown)-god of struggle Things begin to get heated. but there's no definitive answer for this. "You are aware I could kill you before you could blink, yes? I know we haven't got any more evidences he wasn't. I am not saying it was ceaseless (I'm also not saying it wasn't...) but I have considered that. Who is he? For Dark Souls Remastered on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Where's the real Gwynevere?" Anyway, just got a little excited about the possibilities of Dark Souls 2 and its potential of being a prequel etc. Johnthethird. Flann, later known as the Spear God was the biological younger brother of the Current Martial King of the One-Horned Tribe hailed as its strongest and one of the Five Martial Gods of Cheonghwado and its co-founder together with his best friend, The Sword God. Also, there is room for a lot of confusion because we don't know what flame he is a God of. Lore [ edit | edit source ] He is mentioned to have left Anor Londo along with the other gods , and eventually marrying Gwynevere, Princess of … The most reasonable to me seems to be pyromancy, perhaps through the Witch of Izalith, and I think most reasonably as part of the attempt to re-create the First Flame that lead to Chaos and Demons. Reply. He is still alive...sadly. This took about 3 months to put together. Fextralife forums | RPGs, Elden Ring, Nioh, Sekiro, Dark Souls, Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne, and more It seems reasonable to believe Flann would need to be connected to one of these two, so lets explore both. The Princess of Sunlight left Anor Londo along with many other deities, and later became wife to Flame God Flann. But what I never thought about was the difference between the founders and the people occupying it, unless I am totally misinterpreting your second idea. Flame God Flann is a mentioned character in Dark Souls. The group of five enjoy a well deserved party, and with the alcohol permeating their brains, the Dragonslayer leads dear Eira to his room. It would make sense since Lothric is a completely pro-firelinking society (at least before the youger prince's change of mind), and Flann was the god of flame. The Princess of Sunlight Gwynevere left Anor Londo along many other deities, and later became wife to Flame God Flann. So I'm guessing that Gwynevere is actually normal sized. Was Flann keeping those flames alive and did Seath and/or Gwyn do something to really shake his salad? Nito, the first of the dead, the Witch of Izalith, and her Daughters of Chaos, Gwyn, the Lord of Sunlight, and his faithful knig… The obvious being the First Flame itself, and the second being through pyromancy, in all of it's various incarnations. Flanny-boy?" Commander #1. Amazing chest ahead XD . This leads me to believe he is simply a … Either before or after this, Seath goes mad and Gwyndolin leaves him to return to Anor Londo and using the magical skills he has learned from Seath either creates or expands the illusion of the city. Plus you - #146593944 added by tiltaz at [Dark Souls] Are you alright, m' lady H-exe Jul 24, 2019. Gwyndolin has aspects of the moon and is transgender with a ring that makes him appear fully female. Flame God Flann gets mentioned very little in Dark Souls - in fact, only once that I can recall, that being the description on the Ring of the Sun Princess. Since she could have been related to Lothric in the recent times, to have her heavenly children spread her influences. Since Lothric is the last cycle and it includes all the previous ages, I'm more inclined to believe that Gwynevere left Anor Londo together with Flann in Ds1, and they eventually ended up in Lothric in Ds3, where Flann founded Lothric's Kingdom and Castle. Flame God Flann; K Knight Berenike; Knight King Rendal; L Lord Gwyn's Firstborn; M Furtive Pygmy; Nameless Blacksmith Deity; O Old Man McLoyf; P Pharis; Primordial Serpents; S Salaman the Master Pyromancer; V Velka, Goddess of Sin; W Witch of Izalith; Y Yulva; Posts: 309. Seath was kidnapping women, including Gwyneveres own handmaids. The place to discuss Dark Souls II. Vored trans princess :(. Something hit me recently, and the only reason it did is because I rewatched some of ENBs lore videos. The real Gwynevere is currently not in Lordran, having married to the flame god Flann. ). Joined: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:00 am. You can't screw Illusions. FINISHED. (silly theory, just spewing it out in case it sticks). We know souls are transferable from Dark Souls 2, so I think more likely original Gwynevere (and Flann, etc) are gone and in this cycle maybe it's the Queen of Lothric, maybe it's Rosaria, hell maybe it's Gertrude. Ring of the Sun Princess is a Ring in Dark Souls and Dark Souls Remastered. Dark Souls 1 is the story of Gwyn, this is the story of those who followed. Rather than recreating the First Flame, they instead create the Chaos Flame. Then Flann passed away, leaving his title to someone else, probably Oceiros. (I think) Reply. Flame god Flann Could be that Gwynevere was the Queen of Lothric as she is not seen anywhere and the Divine blessing kind of vaguelly links her to it. What about this? Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:38 pm. Is Flann actually Ceaseless Discharge ? This ring is granted to those who enter a Covenant with Gwynevere, daughter of Lord Gwyn and the Princess of Sunlight. A community dedicated to everything about Dark Souls 3. - Page 2. If he was why did Gwyn have to sacrifice himself and why did Flann leave with the other Gods? BPassion91 Jul 24, 2019. Gwyn, seeking a way to stop this makes a deal with the Witch of Izalith for an arraigned marriage they believe will be able to rekindle the first flame and extend the age of fire. Still, I doubt that Gwynnevere died at the birth of Bed of Chaos. "In the Age of Ancients, the world was unformed, shrouded by fog. The reason Gwyndolin is so weird is because he was born with an affinity of the moon, was raised as a daughter and has a … Anyway, I believe that Flann has played a role in the lore leading up to DkS3. The way I interpret it, all Gods are "Flame Gods". The Witch of Izalith and two of her daughers have become the Bed of Chaos...suddenly there are the more immediate danger of the demons. Obsessed. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Ornstein, who protects Gwynevere, is present. I do personally believe that "Heide" is a new name that was devised for the now ancient Flame God Flann and it was him and Gwynevere who founded the now sunken city. A look at Gwynevere, Princess of Sunlight, and the woman behind the illusion few ever knew. That simple. Turning against his family...I think it will take more than finding a nice dragon...which there is no indication that he did as I am not aware of any connections of NK to the Ringed City. Menma's grin met the 'Flame God's' scowl. And so a schism in the ranks occured, a Civil War during which the Nameless King joined with the Dragons. But then there was fire, and with fire came disparity. Gwyn's daughter, Gwynevere, provides the player character with the Lordvessel needed to link the First Flame.According to in-game item descriptions, she married the Flame God, Flann… We don't even ACTUALLY know what Gwynevere looked like, only that she apparently left Anor Londo to marry "Flame god Flann" at some point, and Gwyndolin created an illusion of both her and a bright sun in the world. That, or Flann is the God of boring, conventional flames and not awesome life-giving Flames. Also keep in mind that gwynevere likely had a LOT of husbands and children over the years. One final thought: Did Gwyn really start the Age of Fire and create his dynasty if he knew that the flames would just as soon fade ? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/From+Berserk+to+Bloodborne. The Kings of New Londo fall to the Abyss and the city is flooded to stop them and Gwyn, now truely alone with enemies encroaching on all sides, links the flame to attempt to extend the current Age of Fire. Gwynevere left Anor Londo first and THEN met flame god flann and married him. From the way you put it, it sounds like gwyn sacrifices himself after all this crazy shit went down, but gwyn became a lord of cinder as opposed to ash. Gwyn, Lord of Sunlight, the Witch of Izalith, The Furtive Pygmy, and Nito, the First of the Dead: these four beings thus became the first and most powerful out of the other beings that lived in the world, known from that time as the Lords. A look at Gwynevere, Princess of Sunlight, and the woman behind the illusion few ever knew. Gywn's Daughter Gwynevere fell in love with another being that was also very powerful, the Flame God Flann. First, let's go back to the story we already know from DkS1: And the sisters did survive after all, so it doesn't need to be that she "died" but that the union went...poorly. Flame God Flann/Gwynevere (Dark Souls) Gwynevere (Dark Souls) Flame God Flann; Lord's Blade Ciaran; The Nameless King; Lord Gwyn; Dark Sun Gwyndolin; Summary. Priscilla I think was an experiment who escaped and was protected in the painting. We just assume that everything dies at some point. That's adding an awful lot I don't think you need to add. Gywndolin, with his serpentine legs and moon sorcery, perhaps was gifted to Seath for used in his experiments due to his feminine aspects. Therefore I think gwyn sacrificed himself after the bed of chaos was born but before Anor londo was abandoned by the gods. She is married to someone. Gwynevere left Anor Londo with the other deities AFTER Gwyn gave himself to the first flame tho. ThatGuyImortal Jul 24, 2019. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. so it could have been possible that (referring to VaatiVidya's theory on heide's tower of flame) that flann had already created heide's tower and then gwynevere came along after and added the style of anor londo in the form of the cathedral of blue. I think Flann is mostly, just a wink at Berserk's Grunbeld. "The Princess of Sunlight Gwynevere left Anor Londo along many other deities, and later became wife to Flame God Flann.". Do you really wanna start this? View all replies. Heat and cold, life and death, and of course, light and dark. The wedding of Gwynevere and Flann is swiftly approaching. She is still around and having kids in dark souls 3 and has manipulated entire kingdoms to be built around the idea of linking the flame. Especially considering the existence of Priscilla. They came from the Dark, much like Humans, and four powerful individuals were changed, for they found the Souls of Lords near the flame. :V But I think Gwyndolin would have more appeal. But it seems pretty unnatural. More the Abyss and Kaath, since we see all of the Primordial Serpent statues. Also I'm not sure where you got the idea that gwyndolin had anything to do with seath. 309. Players can equip up to 2 Rings, but equipping two of the same item is not possible. His plan has failed, his daughter is lost, which it appears he wishes to hide with the Illusion of her we find in Anor Londo. I dont think flann is important. I think she is married to ocerios anyway. I remember discarding him as rather irrelevant, but when I thought a bit further regarding the speculative relationship between Seath, Priscilla, Gwynevere and of course Seath being a trusted friend of Lord Gwyn, something hit me. That one is fake" we only hear his name once and thats it. The Nameless king briefly returned after his father's death to place "Sunlight Blade". FINISHED. :> Reply. The fire begins to fade. Add to that that Gwyndolin appears to now have snakes/tenticle legs and considering the Picassa, as well as basic proximity, I think there is a stong argument to be made for a connection there. So maybe she was the reason of Bed of Chaos, but she survived and escaped. But that's my read and I can understand disagreement. By the way, my Dark Souls pet peeve would be 'Gwyndolin was born with snake legs'. Then from the dark, they came, and found the Souls of Lords within the flame. This is the story flame god flann Gwyn, this is the story of Gwyn, this is God. 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